[Icon-tech] finding documentationondevelopingprogramsfor thebraille plus

Thu Jul 16 22:12:17 MDT 2009

Hi, If you could also find the web page for the program and post it here for 
all of us to look at.
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From: "Clay Jeffcoat" <cjeffcoat2 at sc.rr.com>
To: "'Icon technical discussions.'" <icon-tech at mulcahy.ws>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] finding documentationondevelopingprogramsfor 
thebraille plus


> Yeas, tried downloading and installing that on the Braille+ and it also
> needs some missing dependencies.
>
>
> In God We Trust,
>
>
>
> Clay
>
>
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> From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws] 
> On
> Behalf Of Derek Roberts
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:04 AM
> To: Icon technical discussions.
> Subject: Re: [Icon-tech] finding documentation ondevelopingprogramsfor
> thebraille plus
>
> Hi,
>
> It uses a python module or something called pygame. In the debian
> repositories it's python-pygame. Not sure how you'd install it on the bp
> though, not sure if it would help even, but i know that's one of the 
> things
> it uses.
>
> HTH.
> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
> Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
> definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clay Jeffcoat" <cjeffcoat2 at sc.rr.com>
> To: "'Nick Gawronski'" <nick at nickgawronski.com>; "'Icon technical
> discussions.'" <icon-tech at mulcahy.ws>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on developingprogramsfor
> thebraille plus
>
>
>> There is a program called sound rts which is already written in python
>> but won't compile on the braille+ because of a lot of dependencies
> missing.
>> It
>> is a game with lots of stereo sound etc.
>>
>>
>> In God We Trust,
>>
>>
>>
>> Clay
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws
>> [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Nick Gawronski
>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:39 PM
>> To: Icon technical discussions.
>> Subject: Re: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on developing
>> programsfor thebraille plus
>>
>> Hi, I completely agree with you that we need one of those interpreters
>> probably included directly in the icon or braille plus.  There are a
>> lot of those games and you can also create your own.  I think even
>> some of the newer ones include sound.  It would be better if the
>> interpreter were included into the firmware of the braille plus rather
>> then another program for installation.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Icon technical discussions." <icon-tech at mulcahy.ws>
>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on developing programs
>> for thebraille plus
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>     I'm interested in this subject, but for a different reason I
>>> guess. I know nothing about Python, unfortunately. One program I've
>>> always thought was missing was an interpreter for interactive
>>> fiction, also called text adventure games. There are several systems
>>> for writing games out there, but the most popular is probably Inform,
>>> and the most popular format the Z-machine originally developed by the
>> legendary games company Infocom.
>>> There are many Z-machine interpreters out there, but as far as I
>>> know, there's not a complete one in Python. The almost standard
>>> interpreter is Frotz, written in C. It compiles out of the box on
>>> most Linux systems. You just need Ncurses I think it is. But since
>>> the Braille+ doesn't have GCC, Frotz seems out. Dunnow, just a thought.
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ken Perry" <kperry at aph.org>
>>> To: "Nick Gawronski" <nick at nickgawronski.com>; "Icon technical
>>> discussions." <icon-tech at mulcahy.ws>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 7:08 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on developing programs
>>> for the braille plus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> First there is no need to use Gcc because the applications are
>>> developed in Python.  A good place to go for information of creating
>>> your own application is:
>>>
>>> http://tech.aph.org/mm/wiki/Development
>>>
>>> I have been thinking of doing a tutorial series here on this email
>>> list if people are interested.  So if there are a couple of
>>> interested developers out there with ideas please email them to me so
>>> we can see if there is a need and maybe we can create a class
>>> specifically geared at getting you started with your projects.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws
>>> [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws]
>>> On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:26 PM
>>> To: Icon technical discussions.
>>> Subject: Re: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on
>>> developingprogramsforthebraille plus
>>>
>>> Hi, well how is it currently done is there any samples as like I said
>>> on the user site no examples and I can't find anything on the
>>> internet as well as no documentation on compiling programs with gcc
>>> for the arm processer.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Valiant8086<mailto:valiant8086 at lavabit.com>
>>> To: Icon technical discussions.<mailto:icon-tech at mulcahy.ws>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on developing
>>> programsforthebraille plus
>>>
>>> I could be wrong, I should have said, at some point I do hear claim
>>> of work being done on an sdk, nothing says it'll be when the next
>>> version of the software comes out.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Valiant8086<mailto:valiant8086 at lavabit.com>
>>> To: Nick Gawronski<mailto:nick at nickgawronski.com> ; Icon technical
>>> discussions.<mailto:icon-tech at mulcahy.ws>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on developing programs
>>> forthebraille plus
>>>
>>> When the next version of the software comes out, apparently there'll
>>> be a start of an sdk available to go with it.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Nick Gawronski<mailto:nick at nickgawronski.com>
>>> To: icon-tech at mulcahy.ws<mailto:icon-tech at mulcahy.ws>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:02 PM
>>> Subject: [Icon-tech] finding documentation on developing programs for
>>> thebraille plus
>>>
>>> Hi, Looking on the user site for the icon and braille plus I don't
>>> see any documentation or developers kit for making packages or doing
>>> any type of development like compiling programs from source for the
>>> icon or braille plus.  I also use debian linux on my desktop so am an
>>> advanced
>> linux user.
>>> Also are there any directions on bridging the usb network connection
>>> in linux like there are in windows?  I would have thought that as the
>>> icon and braille plus are based on linux directions would be provided
>>> for both operating systems for those of us who use them.  Also, after
>>> installing a package like any of the games or what else you choose to
>>> install is it always required to reboot in order to make the
>>> application work?
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