[Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved

[John Esak]

Hi Amy,

Sorry, I saw that you had mentioned that *after* I sent my message.  It's
such a shame that a simple thing like this caused 7 hassles for you.  Email
should be a little more reliable than it is, and actually, it would be, but
the designers never considered that there would be anything like "spam" and
spoofing of addresses and such. It all causes lots of trouble no one ever
imagineed.  Worms and viruses, yes, they were thought of ahead of the time
they ever reared their ugly heads, but spam and such misuse of email no.
Too bad that people misuse such a fantastic achievment. Virtually instant
communication between any two people no matter where they are on the planet.
People take such marvels for gratned, don't they.

Take care,

John
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy Ruell [mailto:aruell at comcast.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: john at valar.com; 'Icon technical discussions.'
> Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved
> 
> Hi,
> I'm using outlook 2003 and have sent many other messages 
> without subjects
> both before and after this problem.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws 
> [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws] On
> Behalf Of John Esak
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:07 PM
> To: 'Icon technical discussions.'
> Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved
> 
> 
> It's helpful in that it lowers my opinion of Comcast. They 
> should not be
> disallowing your email because it does not have a subject. 
> That is not a
> prerequisite for handling email. Nowhere in any spec, RFC, 
> the memories of 5
> people I've asked (and they are all as old as me, and 
> therefore old enough
> to remember way back to the early 70's or thereabouts...) is there any
> requirement that an email message needs some text in the 
> subject field.  If
> it is true that Comcast is arbitrarily saying you need some, 
> they should
> fire the person or people who made that decision. If it is 
> true... all I can
> say is there is too much of this type of thing going on at 
> small ISP's, and
> now you are saying that an enormous tier one carrier is also 
> prone to such
> inappropriate actions regarding infra-structure that they 
> have no right to
> change without following the very specific and long-lived 
> conventions for
> doing so. Shame on them.
> 
> Amy, although this obviously appeared to fix your problem, I 
> would actually
> be very surprised if Comcast has adopted such a rule.  Could 
> it be you are
> using a client that requires something in the subject.  Can 
> you try using
> Outlook Express to send a piece of email and see if it is 
> also constrained
> by this "must have a subject" policy?  I didn't read any more 
> in this thread
> than your note.  What program are you using to write and send 
> the message?
> Even if it is just a piece of bad programming in their own 
> client, it is
> still stupid.
> 
> Imagine if all their servers really balked at sending email without
> subjects. They would not be relaying millions and millions of messages
> daily.  That's why it is a little hard to believe, and I'm 
> hoping you have a
> way around this. Could it be you were in the Icon/BP and sent 
> this mail.
> You are talking about some kind of certification registration 
> or something.
> Was it for NLS?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws
> > [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws] On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:54 AM
> > To: 'Icon technical discussions.'
> > Subject: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved
> >
> > Hello all,
> > Thanks to Ken Perry, I solved the problem. Apparently,
> > Comcast would not
> > send out the message until I put something in the subject
> > line, although I
> > have posted messages in the past without doing so.
> >
> > Hope this is helpful to someone.
> > Amy
> >
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