[Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved

Chase Crispin chase.crispin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 18 10:12:21 MDT 2009


It couldn't be the APH server with the rbd list on it could it?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Esak 
  To: 'Amy Ruell' ; 'Icon technical discussions.' 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved


  Isn't that so strange that the one email seemed to require it.  Very odd.  I
  would chalk it all up to some strange fluke.

  John


  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws
  > [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws] On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
  > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:49 AM
  > To: Icon technical discussions.
  > Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved
  >
  > I can send a blank message to myself without problem
  > irrespective of the presence of text in the
  > subject line.amy
  >
  > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:18:35 -0400, Larry Skutchan wrote:
  >
  >
  > >Amy, you could verify if it is your provider eating the
  > messages by sending one
  > >to yourself with a blank subject and body. It might be a
  > good thing to know.
  > >
  > >
  > >-----Original Message-----
  > >From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws
  > [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws] On
  > >Behalf Of Amy Ruell
  > >Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:26 PM
  > >To: john at valar.com; 'Icon technical discussions.'
  > >Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved
  > >
  > >Hi,
  > >I'm using outlook 2003 and have sent many other messages
  > without subjects
  > >both before and after this problem.
  > >
  > >
  > >-----Original Message-----
  > >From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws
  > [mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws] On
  > >Behalf Of John Esak
  > >Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:07 PM
  > >To: 'Icon technical discussions.'
  > >Subject: RE: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved
  > >
  > >
  > >It's helpful in that it lowers my opinion of Comcast. They
  > should not be
  > >disallowing your email because it does not have a subject.
  > That is not a
  > >prerequisite for handling email. Nowhere in any spec, RFC,
  > the memories of 5
  > >people I've asked (and they are all as old as me, and
  > therefore old enough
  > >to remember way back to the early 70's or thereabouts...) is
  > there any
  > >requirement that an email message needs some text in the
  > subject field.  If
  > >it is true that Comcast is arbitrarily saying you need some,
  > they should
  > >fire the person or people who made that decision. If it is
  > true... all I can
  > >say is there is too much of this type of thing going on at
  > small ISP's, and
  > >now you are saying that an enormous tier one carrier is also
  > prone to such
  > >inappropriate actions regarding infra-structure that they
  > have no right to
  > >change without following the very specific and long-lived
  > conventions for
  > >doing so. Shame on them.
  > >
  > >Amy, although this obviously appeared to fix your problem, I
  > would actually
  > >be very surprised if Comcast has adopted such a rule.  Could
  > it be you are
  > >using a client that requires something in the subject.  Can
  > you try using
  > >Outlook Express to send a piece of email and see if it is
  > also constrained
  > >by this "must have a subject" policy?  I didn't read any
  > more in this thread
  > >than your note.  What program are you using to write and
  > send the message?
  > >Even if it is just a piece of bad programming in their own
  > client, it is
  > >still stupid.
  > >
  > >Imagine if all their servers really balked at sending email without
  > >subjects. They would not be relaying millions and millions
  > of messages
  > >daily.  That's why it is a little hard to believe, and I'm
  > hoping you have a
  > >way around this. Could it be you were in the Icon/BP and
  > sent this mail.
  > >You are talking about some kind of certification
  > registration or something.
  > >Was it for NLS?
  > >
  > >John
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >>-----Original Message-----
  > >>From: icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws
  > >>[mailto:icon-tech-bounces at mulcahy.ws] On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
  > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:54 AM
  > >>To: 'Icon technical discussions.'
  > >>Subject: [Icon-tech] Problem subscribing to rbd list solved
  > >>
  > >>Hello all,
  > >>Thanks to Ken Perry, I solved the problem. Apparently,
  > >>Comcast would not
  > >>send out the message until I put something in the subject
  > >>line, although I
  > >>have posted messages in the past without doing so.
  > >>
  > >>Hope this is helpful to someone.
  > >>Amy
  > >>
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